Comments for iPad - lots of hits and a few misses? at http://www.nzmac.com , comment 1 to 16 out of 16 comments http://www.nzmac.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:06:31 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-670 Yes, definitely only the models with 3G. The "wifi only" models have no GPS at all. They *might* be able to do what the original iPhone does with WiFi stations and guessing your location from that, but that's rubbish here in NZ and mostly rubbish anywhere that I'd actually want location information. It was confirmed by an Apple employee, speaking on behalf of Apple. Name I don't recall, but he was very clear on it, and repeated it a few times as each person clarified it in their own way. - CraigStanton Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:09:44 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-669 And when you say "device", do you mean both versions or just the one with 3G connectivity...sorry, I think you mean the latter, but we need to be clear. Perhaps explaining who confirmed it might be useful also. Phil - Philip Roy Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:04:35 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-668 I've had it confirmed that the GPS in the device is a full GPS. The 'assisted' part matches the usual definition of 'assisted' and the GPS part does indeed mean data-from-the-satellites. The only part the 3G data connection plays is to get the almost instant first-fix, which then hits to the GPS module where in the world it is, to within a few kilometers, and then the GPS module will know which satellites to listen to (there are about 28 I think and picking which ones are the closest takes a while). - CraigStanton Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:37:10 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-666 And more goss on whether a camera was meant to be in the iPad... [url]http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/01/ipad-enclosure-has-empty-space-for-camera/[/url] - Philip Roy Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:56:33 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-665 Hope this rumour is true... [url]http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/02/01/apple-tablet-os-x-ipad/[/url] - Philip Roy Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:32:14 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-662 Stuff's assertion is wrong... possibly. The iPhone has assisted GPS as well. When a GPS signal isn't available it uses cell towers to triangulate relative position. There's nothing untoward at all. The problem is that Apple was only introducing the iPad not going into details. We don't know what OS it is running, we don't know what the final specs are and therefore the speculation as to what the GPS capabilities of the iPad are are speculative at best. It's been because of the rumours that the iPad has been perceived to be a let down but those who believed all the rumours as opposed to picking out the rumours that sound like what Apple would actually do deserve to be let down because their gullible. Sooner or later people will work out for themselves what makes sense as opposed to blindly going along with rumours. I'll address these issue on Sunday. :-) - Darryn Lowe Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:31:19 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-661 Worse still is Stuff.co.nz's assertion that it doesn't have real GPS, only positioning from cell-towers. There's no comments allowed on that article but I found an email address to explain assisted-GPS to them http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/3272356/Busting-the-iPad-hype - CraigStanton Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:05:18 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-660 Yeah I think a lot of people haven't noticed the lack of GPS in the wifi-only models. Phil - Philip Roy Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:43:27 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-659 I'm pretty sure the older SDK provided the ability to pick from camera or library no matter what your device is. It was up to the programer to determine if the device had a camera or not (e.g. iPod Touch). I suspect it is the same deal here. Since the new SDK still runs on iPhones they won't remove the "Take a picture" (with your camera) ability, it is still up to the programmer to disable it. That being said I'm not buying one of these until they do come with a camera (and GPS without the extra $130 for 3G connectivity). It'll probably happen in V2 so I'll just wait. - CraigStanton Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:10:08 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-658 Yeah okay I'll give you that one only because the image on the first one didn't show up the second option. That being said though it's still not indicative of the iPad getting a camera built in. It's an SDK so anything can be done. I still think it's ridiculous to expect a camera in a device like this. No, I think the camera part of the SDK is going to be with regards to hardware add-ons via the Dock Connector and/or iPhone tethered shooting because that's the only thing that makes sense. - Darryn Lowe Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:14:23 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-657 So "Take Photo" on this next example means "Take photo from library"? Wonder what "Choose existing photo" then means? When have you known Apple to use terminology like "Take Photo" to mean use an existing one? [url]http://9to5mac.com/iPad-camera-missing-sdk-reveals-3546435[/url] [url]http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/iphone-sdk-calls-out-nonexistent-ipad-cam-confirms-split-views/[/url] - Philip Roy Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:16:21 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-656 Here's what the article says: [quote]Though the iPad, introduced by Apple Wednesday, does not include a camera, the iPhone OS 3.2 SDK "simulator" for creating software hints the shipping product could support a camera in some fashion.[/quote]"In some fashion" does not necessarily equate to "iPad is going to get a camera". There's nothing to say that that "Take Picture" doesn't also mean "Take from Photo Library" or "Take from device". If you actually look at the button that triggers that it's actually called "Add Photo". Here's the likely scenario, the aforementioned accessory would conceivably be used to connect a camera to the iPad via USB and by use of tethering take photos. To be honest I would prefer this method than a camera attached to the shipping product. I mean do you know how much of a knob you'd look like taking photos with a 10" camera? No, it makes more sense that it will support USB camera tethering or even Bluetooth camera tethering in order to take the photos in which case you can use ANY camera therefore make your library worthy of the device. It will either do it with the camera accessory shown or it will do it with an attachable to-be-released camera similar to say the iSight. Either way it won't involve a 10" camera. - Darryn Lowe Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:04:23 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-655 How does an accessory that lets you import images equate to (as you see in the AppleInsider article) a suggestion that the software lets you "Take" a photo? Either they may bring in the option to use an external camera live (which isn't what the accessory you point is for...and in which case, yuck) or the possibility they dropped or will add in later an inbuilt camera. Phil - Philip Roy Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:35:50 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-654 Scroll to the bottom of this page and you'll see what the camera support bit is for: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ Clue: Second accessory. - Darryn Lowe Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:29:47 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-653 SDK hints at a camera..... [url]http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/27/iphone_os_3_2_is_ipad_only_potential_camera_support_a4_processor.html[/url] - Philip Roy Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:24:39 +0100 http://www.nzmac.com/community-blog/1037-ipad-lots-of-hits-and-a-few-misses.html#comment-652 MacRumours suggests a shared mountable folder will be the way you get at files.... [url]http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/27/ipad-sdk-3-2-details-external-display-file-sharing-system-no-multitasking/[/url] - Philip Roy Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:07:46 +0100