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#14767
USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
I have a wireless USR router with printer server. A Brother HL2040 printer is connected. Under OSX 10.4 I was able to print. The address was entered in 2 parts:

address: 192.168.1.1:1631
queue: printers/HL2040

Under info, it was shown as 192.168.1.1:1631/printers/HL2040

I have just installed Mac OSX 10.5 Leopard. I setup the printer as above but it doesn't work.

I realised that it uses "ipp" instead of "http"

Does anyone know how this can be solved? any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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#14770
Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
I wouldn't expect it to be accessed via HTTP or IPP but as just standard IP.

It should be as simple as using System Prefs to setup the printer.

Go to System Preferences/Printers and Fax and click on the "+" icon.

Click on the "IP" icon and you will see the protocol dropdown, ensure this is set to "Line Printer Daemon - LPD" (HP Printers use the JetDirect option).

Now simply enter the IP Address of your printer (in your case it should be 192.168.1.1) and the printer details should show up.

Click "Add" and you should be all done.

IPP is for printing to a printer over the Internet but as you are on a local network you only need IP printing which is just a standard network printing system.

If only everyone used Airport Extremes or Expresses because with Bonjour you don't have to do anything. I love Bonjour, she's such a sexy French lass.
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#14778
Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
Thanks lowededwookie. I tried LPD and it doesn't work as well. I have read on some other forum about CUPS 1.3, 1.2 and 1.1. It seems CUPS 1.3 is the problem. But it's too technical for me to understand. I have the print server so that my kids can print their stuff from their PC. I'm considering installing 10.4 if all else fails. I wrote to US Robotics, but no reply from them. Their local office is not helpful. Thanks once again.
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Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
OK just clicked onto something here.

The IP Address doesn't seem right. That seems to point to the router as opposed to any devices connected to it. The print server should assign the printer to another address for example 192.168.1.2 etc. Of course without seeing how the router does things I can't say either way as each router does things differently to other routers.

Tell you what, I'll have a word to our network guys at work and see if they have come across these units before and if so if they configured the printer on them.

Hopefully they can help so I'll ask them tomorrow.
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#14785
Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
Thanks for all the trouble. I have attached a screen of the router showing the printer location. That was how I entered in the add printer page of the old OSX 10.4 Tiger.

Address: 192.168.1.1:1631
Queue: printers/HL2040

Entering the same info in 10.5 Leopard does not help.
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#14786
Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
Thanks for all the trouble. I have attached a screen of the router showing the printer location. That was how I entered in the add printer page of the old OSX 10.4 Tiger.

Address: 192.168.1.1:1631
Queue: printers/HL2040

Entering the same info in 10.5 Leopard does not help.
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Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
Just a little more information required.

Are you able to supply a screenshot of the printer settings you have under Mac OS X? It might help a little to see what might be happening.

Also, could you do a snapshot of the configuration page it should look like this:



Thanks.
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Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
I have received the reply from USR.

Thank you for choosing USRobotics.

Unfortunately the print server of this device does not support this Operating System, due to changes in the CUPs now implemented by the Leopard OS; however, our engineers devote a great amount of time and effort developing drivers, firmware and software to enhance the quality and performance level of our USRobotics devices, as well as keeping them up to date. Please continue visiting our site periodically for further reference. For regular updates on all USRobotics news, we suggest you subscribe to our newsletter, which you can do by going to www.usr.com/newsletter.asp.

Again, thank you for choosing USRobotics.

If you reply to this message, please click 'Reply' and include all previous correspondence. This allows us to track and resolve your issue more efficiently.

Sincerely,

Gary Garcia
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#14817
Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
Hmmm, interesting. I'm still trying o get some info from one of the guys at work but he seems to think it should be setting the printer up with a separate IP Address like I thought originally.

Without seeing all the screens it's hard to say.

Could you take a snapshot of each screen when setting up a printer and e-mail them to me at:

lowededwookie at mac dot com

I doubt the CUPS drivers would have changed that much but if the router insists on setting up the printer as IPP instead of just IP then it seems possible but it seems odd that CUPS would change so much that it wouldn't handle a standard which leads me to believe the router is not complying to the Internet Printing Protocol standards.
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Re:USR9108 router with print server 2 Years, 1 Month ago  
Just incase anyone was wondering how this is going Taurus and I have been communicating via e-mail to see if there was a solution but it doesn't look good.

The interesting bit came from this link Taurus sent me:

http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?p=409859&sid=acf3bbd864b2138b0f3759d8aecf29c3

It looks as though Tiger was using a version of CUPS that had a bug that allowed CUPS to print to the USR:

the (source) rpm would actually have to be for a cups-1.2.0 instead of 1.2.10 because 1.2.0 is the latest known (and reported in many fora of different linux distributions) version of CUPS that works with the USR9108 gateway. The problem is that the print server in the gateway uses an "ipp-like" protocol, but not exactly ipp. Probably it's a proprietary USR modification. And apparantly, they're not doing anything about it, since the problem is known since cups-1.2.1 appeared; and that's some time ago already.
With cups1.2.0 there was some small bug (don't ask me what how or where) that actually allowed communication with the USR printserver. The bug disappeared with version 1.2.1 so the printserver stopped working with cups. Printing from MS windows however, doesn't give this problem.


Unfortunately this router seems somewhat pathetic in its implementation of a standard printing system which leads me to think that Windows owns 3Com who owns USR(? used to at least). 3Com are just as bad.

Put simply unfortunately it seems the only way Taurus can share a printer on the network using this router is to get a network card of some sort. I tried to help him out through work but the network card appears to cost almost as much as the printer, if you can get one, and using an HP JetDirect option is going to cost almost twice as much as the printer is worth.

Moral of the story, if you wish to share a printer on a network, spend the extra dosh and purchase one with a network card in it. Ironically it's cheaper than buying a printer then the network card. I love printers.
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